Why Aliens are Irrelevant

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By RobSchneider

and possibly a dangerous obsession

I've just finished a marathon exploration of Alex Collier and other UFO experts and am fairly confident that it is more likely than not that aliens, or extraterrestrials as they are more properly called are for real. So why aren't I excited? It's because I'm not convinced that the knowledge of the existence of ETs is nearly as important as what's happening right here on earth.

Alex Collier may or may not have actually been abducted by friendly ETs and they may or may not have clued him in about the complexities of intergalactic life. He tells a convincing story and his core message as received by the good ETs he apparently got to know rings true. In essence, they told him that:

  1. We have to stop letting the control system run our lives and take responsibility for our own future if we want to be free.
  2. It is a malevolent control group that has messed with our lives, made us divided and fearful and led to our disconnection from the Source or One.

This is essentially the same message that David Icke presents. One difference between Icke and Collier is that Icke has never met an ET, good or bad, while Alex Collier says he has. Another difference is that David Icke has been a far more passionate researcher, writer and speaker than Collier has been. They both "came out" at about the same time (early 1990s), but Alex Collier went back underground for a long time after he originally reported his encounters while David Icke endured massive public ridicule for years.

At any rate, after listening to 4 hours of Alex Collier, I went on and followed some links he recommended. One of them led me to a guy named Colonel Wendelle Stevens. Colonel Stevens was arguably the world's foremost expert on ETs until his recent death. He was so passionate about his subject, he actually hand printed the books he wrote on the subject, some of which are over 500 pages long. While researching Stevens' life and work, I ran across a couple of short videos and these were what made me finally decide I was no longer interested in ETs.

The first video was the first in a series of six. A Call to Zuni Youth, it was an interview with a Zuni elder named Clifford Mahooty who was deeply concerned about the fact that Zuni youth, who he defined as those under the age of 50, were being seduced by technology and taken away from their ancestral lands in search of jobs. In the process, they were losing touch with their spiritual heritage, a heritage that included ancestral contact with ETs or "Star People." About halfway into the 9 minute segment I watched, Mahooty started talking about "they" - the ones who were behind the control system that was destroying the remnants of Zuni culture. The interviewer asked him who "they were." His reply was short and to the point: "The government."

Here was a man who believed in ETs as firmly as you and I believe in Newtonian physics or the Theory of Evolution, but he wasn't concerned about them or their possibly evil intentions. He was concerned about the flesh and blood, observable actions of the United States government. Think about that for a moment while I move on to the next paragraph.

After watching this video I moved on to one that featured Colonel Stevens. In this video, Stevens discusses ETs with Mahooty. It is actually a monologue in which he keeps hammering away at the overwhelming evidence for ETs, including accounts of flying saucers crashes and ETs seen stumbling around in the desert after the crashes. Clifford Mahooty listens respectfully, but says little. I'm not a mind reader and I'm sure the Zuni elder is a kinder man than I, but all I could think as I watched the video was, "Mahooty must be wondering what this guy is jabbering about."

Telling Clifford Mahooty that ETs exist is like telling the average American that jet planes exist. So what? The important thing is what those jet planes are used for and if they're used against you, what can you do about it? In Cambodia, the "phnong" (hill dwelling tribes) could do nothing against the American bombers that devastated their part of the world for no reason at all, so they erected totems to ward them off because that was all they were capable of doing. Those phnong didn't even know who was dropping the bombs until the Khmer Rouge came and told them and used the information to recruit them. For all they knew, the bombers could have been alien spacecraft.

Pol Pot and his minions used that tactic to turn Cambodians against one another. When they took over Phnom Penh and drove everyone out, their most effective tactic was to warn them of an impending U.S. invasion. When Pol Pot (a French educated Cambodian) convinced his soldiers to slaughter millions of intellectuals, artists and relatively successful fellow Cambodians, he did it by telling them that they had been infected by the disease of capitalism.

Cambodians are basically a peaceful people with strong ties to the land. They are village people who are most comfortable in a village setting. They used to have a tradition of herbal medicine and what we would call "energy healing," but that was largely lost along with their rich artistic tradition thanks to Pol Pot and before that, the French. A Westernised Cambodian once told me that the reason why Cambodians are so "lazy" is because as rice farmers and before that hunter/gatherers, they only had to work a couple of months a year.

I hope you're beginning to see the connection I'm trying to make here. We who are opposed to the control system that has been imposed on us are much like Cambodians, Zunis and other tribal people who basically want to "live and let live" and follow a lifestyle and belief system that naturally suits us. It's finally dawning on us that we have been conned into becoming willing serfs for generations, just as Clifford Mahooty says about his own people.

What I'm concerned about is the distinct possibility that we could be conned yet again. A couple of thousand years ago, give or take, another empire was on the verge of collapse. At that time, a new belief system was emerging and gaining popularity. The populace, disenchanted by the Roman gods, were embracing Christianity. The existing control group took advantage of this with the establishment of the Roman Catholic ("all embracing, including a variety of things") religion. Constantine publicly converted to the new religion (it is said that privately he may not have), gathered together a bunch of Christian big shots and hammered out the nuts and bolts of the new religion. It wasn't easy. They argued about a lot of things, one of them being the touchy subject of reincarnation. It was finally decided to toss that one out because if people believed they could reincarnate, they couldn't be controlled as easily. Instead, they came up with eternal damnation and only one chance to convert to Catholicism or be damned. Of course, not everyone went along with the program, so the Inquisition was launched in order to purge the new empire of dissent.

The so-called Age of Enlightenment signalled the beginning of the end for the religious control groups in Europe. Eventually, scientific materialism emerged victorious as the people were "liberated" from their enslavement to the belief system that had been imposed on them. As we can see today, scientific materialism is just another limiting belief system and it has been used against us in a number of interesting ways. Once again, we're beginning to rebel.

What I'm worried about is this bizarre tendency to run from one control group to another. All it would take, it seems to me, is one charismatic political figure who "converts" to ETism to create a tidal wave of followers. He could claim to know who the reptilians are and send us out to purge the world of them. He could then tell us to burn all GM crops (I'd join that escapade) and plant organic vegetables. Like Pol Pot, though, he would then force us to work double time growing vegetables to feed the troops who were busily killing those of us who didn't get with the program. All of this could be "divinely inspired" by the benevolent ETs.

Modern history (the last 3 to 5 thousand years, maybe) is a continual saga of domination of the many by the few. As far as I can tell, the vast majority of people have always found ways to survive and thrive in small groups and have been happy to live in harmony with the environment they are born in. Australian aboriginals could live in harsh desert conditions. Eskimos could live in freezing arctic conditions. Amazon tribes survived nicely in the jungle. African tribes were much better off before we got to them. Many of the first white settlers in America just wanted to escape the tyranny they faced in Europe and the Constitution basically was drafted to ensure their personal liberty. Whether or not it was written to deceive or really was a grand design is open to debate, but it doesn't matter: it's not worth the hemp it's written on right now.

I'm glad the control system is being exposed and I'm glad that people are waking up and questioning everything that's been forced down their throats. I'm glad that we're learning to unlearn and listen to the quiet voice of intuition instead of the blaring noise of the system. I'm glad we're making better use of our intellects by exploring information and drawing conclusions ourselves rather than just absorbing force-fed "facts" and calling ourselves "intelligent" and "informed" because we get a pat on the back, good grades and/or a better salary. By all means, let's break free. Believe that ETs exist if you like. I do. Just don't try to force them down my throat and if anyone tries to force them down your throat, beware: it's just another system trying to force itself on you for its own purposes.




A Call to Zuni Youth: Part One

Wendelle Stevens and Clifford Mahooty

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sparkster profile image

sparkster Level 6 Commenter 3 months ago

Hmm very interesting indeed. I've literally this second just found a very insightful link to recent Alex Collier activities which I think you'll find intersting:

http://ascendingstarseed.wordpress.com/category/al

As Collier even said himself "everything is a belief system"

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RobSchneider Hub Author 3 months ago

Thanks. There's a ton of stuff there to look at, so I'll have to get back to you. Yes, I remember him saying that "everything is a belief system" and also that even the Pleadians (sp?) said they don't have all the answers about the "One." Those were a couple of things that made me interested in him. Sorry to see that things are so rough for him.

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somethgblue Level 7 Commenter 3 months ago

I definitely agree that the ET presence can and will be used against the masses as a way of control.

I think the key is the Polar Shift and the Conscious Ascension which is happening hand in hand and is due to the Universe realigning itself.

I believe the Maya calender was a way of tracking energy alignments concerning planetary orbits as they affect geometric energy fields on the Earth.

All of this together is why the Aliens have gathered to study its effects on the Planet and the Human Race is of little concern to them.

Sure they could probable help us, but to what end? We need to help ourselves pure and simple. Because of the geographical restructuring of this planet those that survive will be given the opportunity to do just that.

I suspect that is when the Aliens will make their presence known, during the rebuilding.

Good hub if a little lengthy!

Advertise A Little Book of Coincidences by John Martineau and I'll buy that one!

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RobSchneider Hub Author 3 months ago

Here's something to consider. I almost went to a reverse speech course once, but ran out of money:

http://www.humanitywinsilluminatilose.com/?p=2185

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sparkster Level 6 Commenter 3 months ago

I don't believe reverse speech holds any value, although subliminal messages can be disguised backward in audio recordings and they are still picked up by the subconcious.

Here's something else to consider.

Collier claims that one of the andromedans told him the phrase "the love that you withhold is the pain that you carry" but as pointed out by Bard if Ely its actually a quote from Ralph Waldo Emerson

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RobSchneider Hub Author 3 months ago

The original assumption was that reverse speech was implanted in heavy metal music and was Satanic. An Australian man (forget his name just now) looked at it differently and thought it came from the unconscious. The guy on the website I provided a link to took it one step further and believes it comes from "the One" or "Source." I tend to go with the Australian who trademarked "Reverse Speech Therapy" and became interested in it when someone I knew came back from one of his courses raving about it. The "Source" theory is a bit suss and reminds me of kinesiology, which worked spectacularly for me on a personal level, but lost credibility when someone decided you could use "muscle testing" to determine the truth or falsehood of anything.

I googled the quote and found it attributed to RWE in many places. One said it was from Self Reliance, but I copied and pasted the text onto word and did a search for it but it wasn't there. I'm a big Emerson fan and think I even wrote a hub about Self Reliance. Here's another RWE quote:

"People only see what they are prepared to see."

I'd love to discover where in Emerson's work that quote exists. Until then, I'll "withhold" judgement.

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somethgblue Level 7 Commenter 3 months ago

Here is a Nutard quote:

"I think, therefore I'm the greatest human that ever lived and your are not" you can quote me on that!

Of course nutard spelled backwards is Supreme One, so maybe that is proof we only see what we are prepared to see!

Sorry guys I didn't get enough attention as a child!

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RobSchneider Hub Author 3 months ago

Just a few AC quotes picked up from this source:

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message17

from Alex Collier's book Defending Sacred Ground:

Probable Events That Might Be Happening In the Next Few Years

"Between 1996 and the end of 1997, there is a very strong possibility that one third of Japan is going to sink below the ocean surface in a very violent earthquake.

Between June and October of 2003, there is a strong probability we will wake up one morning and the moon will no longer be in orbit. The reason for this is that there are regressive energies on the moon. They just might have to "pay back some karma".

Between 2003 and 2007, the benevolent races are supposedly going to be all around us. We will see them, but they will not interfere. The Andromedan Council, a group of representatives from 143 planetary systems, made a declaration that by August 12, 2003 all extraterrestrial presence, both good and bad, off our planet. They want to see how we interact with each other when we are not being manipulated. It's a test, and they have every intention on carrying it out. It's going to be interesting.

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sparkster Level 6 Commenter 3 months ago

I don't know if you've seen it but here is Bard of Ely's hub regarding the quote:

http://bardofely.hubpages.com/hub/Why-did-alien-co

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Terri Meredith Level 4 Commenter 3 months ago

Hi Rob! Enjoyed the piece immensely. As for reverse speech...have you ever recorded yourself and then played it backwards? I decided to do just that to see for myself if I could find anything in my own backwards words. :) I simply turned on my recorder and began talking about a topic (spirituality) that interested me. If anyone had come upon me talking to myself, I'm sure they would have gotten the net. But when I slowed the recording down, and played it backwards, I said some pretty amazing stuff. It all seemed fairly deep and was pretty much in line with my topic. I haven't decided exactly what I make of it. I'm sort of leaning toward "dual" communication where we are able to form our verbal speech in such a way as to speak conscious thoughts as well as subconscious thoughts. Either way, it's very interesting stuff.

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RobSchneider Hub Author 3 months ago

Sparkster: Thanks. I just left a comment on that hub. It's basically my take on David Icke. In a nutshell, I like him and interpret him in kind of an amateur Jungian way.

Terri, Now that I've reminded myself about RS, I really want to try doing some recording myself. Just need some quiet time to sit down and do it. David John Oates is the Australian guy who discovered and developed it. This is his website: http://www.reversespeech.com.au/

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Terri Meredith Level 4 Commenter 3 months ago

Thanks, I'm very familiar with the site. It's in my favorites list.

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RobSchneider Hub Author 3 months ago

Terri, What software do you use for rs?

I'd almost totally forgotten about reverse speech until I mentioned it here. I've just come back from exploring the site and loved this quote: “Until you make the unconscious conscious, it will direct your life and you will call it fate.” – Carl Jung

I also really liked this essay: http://www.reversespeech.com/essay2.html

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Terri Meredith Level 4 Commenter 3 months ago

I'll have to check out the link. Actually Rob, I have a digital recorder and the software that came with it allows me to do all kinds of things. You can find free sound editing software by doing a google search. I've used Audacity which is an open source audio editor. It's actually pretty good.

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

I wrote a hub on reversed speech about a year ago. That's about the time I did my own exploration into the phenomenon.

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somethgblue Level 7 Commenter 3 months ago

Rob,

I've gone round and round with Bard of Ely before, although he is very knowledgeable and well read, he generally just likes to be right about everything. It is very difficult to learn anything new when you are right about everything.

I prefer to discuss knowledge with folks that are open to new ideas, which is why this hub is so good, because the ET topic is truly irrelevant!

What we do with our knowledge and how we arrive at conclusions or beliefs is to keep the door open on all concepts, until proven other wise!

My new hub will explain what I mean.

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sparkster Level 6 Commenter 3 months ago

Guys,

I've just read back through this hub and realized how awesome it really is.

I've just managed to get in contact with Collier and his situation does seem to be a little odd. I'm working on a new hub about him.

I also agree with Blue, Bard does come across as a little argumentative and in favour of just disregarding relevant information. As I've just stated on the comments to his Collier/Emerson hub saying we should take everything into consideration and come to our own conclusions.

And yes aliens are irrelevant, they've always been here. We need to start taking reponsibility for ourselve and start fixing the problems on Earth.

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RobSchneider Hub Author 3 months ago

Thanks for reading a second time, Sparkster. I know it was a long hub, but I didn't want to leave anything out.

Blue - Stop writing hubs. They always make me think about stuff I don't want to think about. Just believe every word I say and you'll be okay.

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somethgblue Level 7 Commenter 3 months ago

How come only 39 people are following you did your hurt some ones feelings with your inane drivel?

We have written almost the same amount of Hubs and I purposely insult as many readers as possible and have more than twice as many almost three times as many?

I do believe every word you say, after all humor is good for the soul.

What do you know about the Kaballah? Anything insightful, what is the main religion in your neck of the swamp?

Does your wife practice a particular religion? Maybe you should write a hub about her and provide pictures, real ones!

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somethgblue Level 7 Commenter 3 months ago

and another thing . . . I can't believe you didn't leave a comment on my new hub!

Here you have a chance to set the tone of all the other commenters and you take strike three looking, so what if it is a wicked slider in the dirt if you don't take a swing you will never hit the ball, what we your looking for a walk?

I have a memory like a Steel Trap, so when you least expect it, expect it!

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somethgblue Level 7 Commenter 2 months ago

I got tired of insulting my fellow Hubbers and decided to pick on someone that truly is clueless. My next Hub article Why Ex-Patriot Writers are Irrelevant will explain it in more detail.

It should be obvious to even the densest thinkers on the planet that we have been conditioned to allow others to do our thinking for us, wait for the Discovery Channel episode and then you will get a clue.

I don't know why I keep rereading your inane drivel . . . oh that's right because you haven't had an original thought since I gave you one!

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RobSchneider Hub Author 2 months ago

I didst have a divine revelation in which the Lord didst reveal to me that I am infinitely superior to other mere mortals. The Lord didst say, "Take heart, oh great one. Thou art my mouthpiece on earth. There shalt be those of small mind known as nutards who wilt despise and mock thee, but thou art greater than they." He then went on to give me a list of shows to watch on TV to further increase my already awesome knowledge base. I've been watching re-runs of 24, for instance, to learn the inside facts about the War on Terror.

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somethgblue Level 7 Commenter 2 months ago

So God has your back, that's cool, I've been watching reruns of Voyager to hone my skills on how to recognize if an Alien lives in your backyard. So while God maybe has your back, I will be ready for the invasion . . . personally I think he was lying to you to get rid of you!

zuni youth 2 weeks ago

It's very funny that Clifford mahooty is being taken serious because he's not an active member in the kachina society so how does he know anything about it. Clifford mahooty throws out his family and manipulates those around him. He is not an elder. An elder would stand up for the people not try to break them apart. I wish. I wish u all would stop himering him and not listen to him. He is just a grumpy old man nothing more.

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RobSchneider Hub Author 2 weeks ago

Thanks Zuni youth. My point was that Clifford Mahooty wasn't as excited about aliens as he was about the breakdown of his culture. He may be just a grumpy old man for all I know. I just think aliens are irrelevant when there are many other important issues facing us that we seem to let slide. I'll worry about aliens when I see them.

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